[Ted]

Haha purely because I enjoy reading these, Ill throw this match in. Thoughts?

[Jawa]

I demand pictures! and my vote goes to Luke purely from the things Zal tells me about him being stupidly OP, like manipulating black holes.

[Ted]

I made this purely because I wanted to hear Zal's answer haha. I'm ridiculously addicted to listening to these "vs" matches

[Frog]

A new one coming up

Luke wins BTW

[Zaluk]

What version of Luke? EU Grandmaster Luke, ROTJ Luke etc..?

[Ted]

Eu grandmaster luke.

[Buffy's Shadow]

Grandmaster Luke would probably be an even match for Bane. Both are the 'modern' founders of their respective Orders, with Bane establishing the modern Sith with the Rule of Two, and Luke re-establishing the Jedi Order. My only concern would be how far Luke would be willing to go with using the Force, and whether or not he'd be willing to try and redeem Bane at all. If that happened, it would distract him from the actual fight, which could be his undoing.

I'm torn on this one, so I'm gonna say it would be a draw

[Hiicrop]

Grandmaster Luke would probably be an even match for Bane. Both are the 'modern' founders of their respective Orders, with Bane establishing the modern Sith with the Rule of Two, and Luke re-establishing the Jedi Order. My only concern would be how far Luke would be willing to go with using the Force, and whether or not he'd be willing to try and redeem Bane at all. If that happened, it would distract him from the actual fight, which could be his undoing.

I'm torn on this one, so I'm gonna say it would be a draw

I agree mostly with emperor on this only, I think Luke would win. Luke is more skilled than Darth Bane. I don't think I'm just saying that because Luke Skywalker is my favorite Jedi character. Darth Bane isn't redeemable. I think Luke would feel that in him. Now I don't think Bane is the black hole of evil that is, Emperor Palpatine, but evil nonetheless.

[Difionex]

Bane coz he was able to break Batman's bones and was about to blow up Gotham

[Kirito]

Grandmaster Luke would probably be an even match for Bane. Both are the 'modern' founders of their respective Orders, with Bane establishing the modern Sith with the Rule of Two, and Luke re-establishing the Jedi Order. My only concern would be how far Luke would be willing to go with using the Force, and whether or not he'd be willing to try and redeem Bane at all. If that happened, it would distract him from the actual fight, which could be his undoing.

I'm torn on this one, so I'm gonna say it would be a draw

super glad you brought this up about how far Luke would go. As ive said in the few debates ive had with zaluk on frogs posts.

EU grand master Luke would win. Luke is OP in the EU anyways but if Bane put Luke to the real test by attacking his weaknesses Luke would have to do what is necessary to defeat Bane.

Just my opinion ^^

[Buffy's Shadow]

Grandmaster Luke would probably be an even match for Bane. Both are the 'modern' founders of their respective Orders, with Bane establishing the modern Sith with the Rule of Two, and Luke re-establishing the Jedi Order. My only concern would be how far Luke would be willing to go with using the Force, and whether or not he'd be willing to try and redeem Bane at all. If that happened, it would distract him from the actual fight, which could be his undoing.

I'm torn on this one, so I'm gonna say it would be a draw

super glad you brought this up about how far Luke would go. As ive said in the few debates ive had with zaluk on frogs posts.

EU grand master Luke would win. Luke is OP in the EU anyways but if Bane put Luke to the real test by attacking his weaknesses Luke would have to do what is necessary to defeat Bane.

Just my opinion ^^

It's a big part of Luke's character, that he sees the light in those everyone else writes off as forever lost to the Dark. Yoda and Obi-Wan were convinced that Vader/Anakin couldn't be redeemed after all he'd done, but Luke did just that. If he sees the opportunity to bring someone away from the Dark, he'll take it. But that doesn't mean that he won't do what's necessary in the same right. A lot of people forget that Luke's pretty accomplished at combat, even for being largely self-taught in regards to blasters and lightsabers.

[Kirito]

agreed ^^

[Zaluk]

I don't know much about Luke as Grandmaster, but I do know he does kinda stomp here. To put it simply, the purpose of the Banite line was so that every Sith down the line would eventually become stronger than the last, meaning Palpatine should be quite a bit better than Bane automatically. Consider the fact that Luke was considered a rival of Palpatine, it should be clear who'd win. Still, I'll go through an analysis, despite my limited knowledge on Luke.

Lightsaber Skill:

Luke Skywalker was one of the best duelists of SW history. He was capable of matching Darth Vader in combat way before his prime.

The fight this time was far more balanced. Vader discovered that Luke was his match, and, once again, the Sith Lord found his thoughts straying to an alliance between them against the Emperor.
Luke had indeed grown powerful since Bespin, and he was an equal match for his father.

- Source: The Official Star Wars Fact File #111

This alone puts Luke's dueling skill above Bane's own.

Luke was also able to contend with Palpatine, the guy who stalemated Yoda.



Bane on the other hand has matched Kas'im, the best duelist of the Sith at the time, years before his prime. Though it should be noted that Bane had great knowledge of Kas'im's blade technique.

Kas'im sighed. "Then your life ends here." And be leapt in, his weapon moving with far more speed than he had ever shown during their practice sessions.

Parrying the first sequence Bane realized his former Master had always been holding something in reserve . . . just as Bane himself had done in the early stages of his battle against Sirak. Only now was he seeing Kas'im's true ability, and he was barely able to defend himself. Barely, but still able.

His opponent grunted in surprise when Bane warded him off, then stepped back to regroup. He'd come in hard and fast, expecting to end their battle quickly. Now he had to reevaluate his strategy.

"You're better than you were when we last fought," he said, clearly impressed and making no attempt to hide it.

"So are you," Bane responded.

Kas'im lunged in again, and the room was filled with the hiss and hum of lightsabers striking each other half a dozen times in the space of two heartbeats. Bane would have been carved to ribbons had he tried to react to each move individually. Instead he simply called upon the Force, letting it flow through him and guide his hand. He gave himself over to the dark side completely, without reservation. His weapon became an extension of the Force, and he responded to the Twilek's unstoppable attack with an impenetrable defense.

- Source: Darth Bane: Path of Destruction

Zannah also claimed she'd never be his equal in martial combat, despite being capable of beating Bane.

She would never be Bane's equal in physical strength. He would always be superior to her in martial skill. So why had she tried to defeat him in lightsaber combat, when her true talents lay elsewhere?

- Source: Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil

Yes, Bane is a great duelist, but his feats don't stack up to Luke's, whose own skill eclipses Bane.
A better comparison would be Bane vs Qui-Gon Jinn, but honestly I'd support Qui-Gon, at least where blade skill is concerned.

Lightsaber Skill: Luke Skywalker

Force Power:

Luke is arguably the most powerful Jedi to exist.
He's accomplished insane feats (some of which I can't find/don't have on me).

He's casually destroyed a AT-AT.




He's also one shotted Sedriss and force pushed Palpatine, the most powerful Sith to exist.




Bane has decent accolades. He's been described as one of the most powerful Sith Lords in history, alongside many others.

Many of the most powerful, terrifying, and notorious Sith Lords through history have been Human or near-Human, including Exar Kun, Darth Malak, Darth Bane, Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, and Darth Krayt.

- Source: Behind the Threat: The Sith

Bane's best feat is arguably collapsing a temple years before his prime.

There was nothing subtle about Bane's attack: the massive shock wave shook the very foundations of the great Rakatan Temple. The concussive blast had enough power to shatter every bone in Kas'im's body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid. But at the last possible instant he threw up a shield to protect himself from the attack.

Unfortunately, he couldn't shield the Temple around him. The walls exploded into great chunks of rubble. The archway collapsed in a shower of stone, burying Kas'im beneath tons of rock and mortar. A second later the rest of the roof caved in, drowning out the Twi'lek's dying screams with a deafening rumble.

Bane watched the spectacle of the Temple's implosion from the safety of the ground at the foot of the stairs. Billowing clouds of dust rolled out from the wreckage and down the stairs toward him.

- Source: Darth Bane: Path of Destruction

Again, Bane really doesn't compare to Luke. The things I've listed for Luke aren't even really close to his most impressive feats. I'm under the belief that Luke could kill Bane with a gesture, should he be inclined to.

Force abilities: Luke Skywalker

Physical Abilities:

While Bane is a big guy with impressive strength, stamina, speed etc... Luke has matched Darth Vader, which honestly puts him above Bane here.

Although Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker are equally strong in the Force, their duels are more than just about physical strength.

- Source: Beware the Sith

Luke drove Vader back to the stairway that descended to the turbolifts, then kicked out with his left leg, knocking Vader from the upper platform. Vader groaned as he flipped over backward and landed on the metal floor below.

- Source: Return of the Jedi Junior Novelization

Conclusion:

There honestly is no competition here. Luke is the most powerful Jedi to exist and doesn't really belong in vs matches against other force users, because he'll win against all of them. There are a few exceptions, such as the Son, the Father, the Daughter and Abeloth, but they shouldn't be used either. I believe Luke could kill Bane with a gesture if he wanted to.

[Kirito]

Once again, Zaluk is on point.

Grand Master Luke Skywalker is even more impressive.

[Buffy's Shadow]

Excellent analyzation there, Zaluk! I had forgotten how striking the Dark Empire comics' art was, in all honesty. I've got the radio drama of that somewhere.

After reading everything you've got there, I can definitely say you've swung my opinion to that of Luke being the clear winner here.

[Zaluk]

Thanks

[Hiicrop]

Excellent analyzation there, Zaluk! I had forgotten how striking the Dark Empire comics' art was, in all honesty. I've got the radio drama of that somewhere.

After reading everything you've got there, I can definitely say you've swung my opinion to that of Luke being the clear winner here.

I was about to comment on this post again just becuase of Cam Kenndy's magnificent artwork in his Dark Empire comics or his Boba Fett ones! I try my best to replicate his art work constantly! Watercolor is hard though.