[Melissa]

I am looking to make a simple like web app at work, it will have a few databse pages and a fe details etc.. nothing to worry about on that side at the minute..

I am just experimenting now, since our marketing and sale design guy is a bit of a idiot to be honest.. he is a clueless mess about merchant who believed he knows more than everybody.

Anyway I want each and every page to have teh same headings, and if I edit that it it will replicate throughout. same with the bottom of the page. Especially since as I say our design guy is likeley to be changing this over and over again.

Second part of the problem is login.. I want there to be like at least 3 levels of security.

I was the site as it is on anonymous level
Site for a standard user
site for an admin user.

or at least anon and logged in user.

Now I know this can all be done.. as Chantelle made the intranet for our company and it looks great and does these thinsg I need..

I know WHY DONT I ASK HER? well shes on a business trip at the minute and its not easy to get hold of her and she is very busy for the next few days..

At least if someone else here knew I could get started on it now..


The last problem is how do I host the bloody thing on my servers but I am sure she can help with that as it wont be for a while unless I put a test up.

[Richard]

While I am sure you posted this in a few spots, not really sure here is your best bet to get help.

The only suggestion I have is why not try and copy what she done on her intranet.

Other than that she has her company blackberry with her this time, try emailing her. Shes back wednesday anyway.

[jawfin]

<-- Desktop application developer, knows absolutely nothing about developing web applications; don't even know half the terminology employed.

[Richard]

Isnt it all going that way though? web based?

I thought it used alot of the same stuff languages vb c++ whatever it is etc.. All merged in with the html etc etc.

It might not be to be sure but I thought it were, I am no expert though. Someone else can calrify I hope.

[Squall]

ino your sister used .net/asp or something to make the intranet as she asked me a while back.. since ino your going to probably going down the same route get the design guy to make a template that is blank (but with the header and footer) to be copied across to different pages.. you can then add the various different things to the pages. (like if you want you site to have a index page/pictures page etc it will need the same header and footer so make the blank one first). thats my knowledge of it from when i made my html site
your sister is the one to ask about the cell's/blocks.....the code is in itself not that confusing when you get your head around it.. its just basic php/html code really and sort of self expklanitory in some regards.. but your sister made the drop downs and stuff that not even ino how to do.. so yea.. ask her.. on wednesday lol

In saying that richard has said already here isnt best place to ask.. ino a few places on the net that explain hwo to do websites and a few guides.. should have somewhere on disk.. but dont quote me on that.

Anyway i hope you get it sorted. and your web design guy kick him for me

[jawfin]

OT (answer Richard): Yup the future is www ; but it'll be Web 2.0 which makes learning http asp cgi css and so on pointless, when there are compilers such as http://www.morfik.com/ allowing desktop programmers to compile web applications.
A programmer doesn't need to know 80x86 Assembler Language to write a desktop app (although I do), now its the same manner that a programmer doesn't need to know the low level dirty stuff to write a web app.

[Melissa]

OT (answer Richard): Yup the future is www ; but it'll be Web 2.0 which makes learning http asp cgi css and so on pointless, when there are compilers such as http://www.morfik.com/ allowing desktop programmers to compile web applications.
A programmer doesn't need to know 80x86 Assembler Language to write a desktop app (although I do), now its the same manner that a programmer doesn't need to know the low level dirty stuff to write a web app.

Yeah your right about that!

She isnt a programmer/ developer by her discipline but she knows enough to get around.. But she was able to create the whole site abeit it she did take a simple template and rip it apart.

I see you can type or drop web items or code them in.. then you can use or add the VB to it after.

I can see the flexability in adding items in and then coding your choices afterwards.

Also copying and editing the html/ asp.net code

She used Visual Studio 2005 or 2008 thats what I am using also.

Okay ill wait to see what she says wednesday

Squall - its not php its asp.net I thought this woould be better for an app plus its cheap and free for us to host.

Whereas the php might not be as good and woudl cost to host , more over at least if I can find out how and whereshe hosted the intranet I can compare and look at the two..

I relaise this is why you should specialise in IT.. to try and get my head around all this as well as network infastructure... no way

[Richard]

Unfortunately I am not really able to answer that. The subject in general is above my head.

However - Melissa I have asked your Sister about your queries

She has said that

1) You need a master page and a content holder.. (I wrote that down so that's about right)

2) She couldn't remember off the top of her head how to do it without looking so your going have to wait.

3) She said look at your server which holds the intranet. Open Internet Information Services manager see how she set that up for the intranet and have a go. Apparently most of the hard work she done so that should be easy.

I wrote that down on what she said, doesn't make much sense to me, she said if it doesn't make much sense you will have to wait.. She did say she will have to look at a copy of what she done on a lot of it..

But if you can find her copy on the server copy that down to your laptop and run it and see if you can see it...

That's all she can do for now..

To be honest if your stuck id leave it till next week.

[Melissa]

THast just it she is busy as ever dont really wanna get her spare time helpin me. PLus its good for me to have a go myself I just needed pointing a little.. She complains I ask her too easy when I should look myslef..

Dont worry the comments has helped put me in teh right direction

Another forum gave a tut video link to basic accounts so i might have somewhere to go in the mean time..

If I can find her site i have something to look at for most part of it.

[FlapJack23]

If you don't have anything against PHP, which is totally free for the software, you could a pre-built CMS, My dad's office uses Drupal for their intranet, and it seems great.

[Melissa]

Funny you say that!

As a neutral I did my homework, not really into this vs this business However I did do my own search on the best way to do this I also asked my mates dad and a few of his work mates who advised me they are developer and programmer nutters professionals. They advise not to really both with a php setup, they did a few things on it before, but now they use mostly VB C++ and asp.. (some do windows apps and unix malarky I switch off when they start going in detail about all the clever gubbings then done etc)

Also Chantelle wrote in intranet (she used to work here and got me a job here before she left 14 montsh ago) which is to be a totally differnt thing but at least I have a datum to refer to to help me It turns out to be an obvious choice in the end

ASP - will integrate into my network seamlessly when I know how to lol

ASP - will be free to host , not saying a php or apache server is a cost but it is a cost If i have to set a server ot delegate a machine to run it. Apparenlty this is a common mis coneption that asp costs money when in fact its often teh reverse in the corporate world.

For application based stuff (now I cannot go into the detailed shit on thius as I dont get it) the later asp runs better.

From all my looking aswell the asp.net does seem much more corporately used...

So it kinda made sense having more widely and useful skills over something which would just be a miss match I guess..

If I were building a website for myself Sure id check out PHP all the way!!

[FlapJack23]

Perhaps these will help you, or maybe not :

http://www.download.com/ASP-Intranet/30 ... 54465.html

http://www.nukedit.com/

http://www.opensourcescripts.com/dir/AS ... es/48.html

http://www.aspin.com/home/webapps/content

http://www.aspapp.com/

[Melissa]

THank you except I dunno what they are..

I am happy to try and build / put together the thing anyway, I am justing having issue with a few things at the minute. From simple vids I am able to put together some sort of basics at the minute.

I just had problems with master page, authentication and how to place it on server..

[Chantelle]

Quick answers are Yeah Master page which you can add from add page at the top..

Or just look and copy mine.. you can add the master page in its an asp tag of code which resides in the top of the page you apply it too.

Hosting and access to intranet go

\\agexchange\c$\inetpub\

In there is Intranet and you can setup your own and transfer there, use Visual studio to update your ownpages you can copy that way.

make a copy of mine to your local HD and open up in your web developer kit

thats all i can do for now