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PostPosted:Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:22 pm
by Hailstorm
Melissa wrote:if its a pre built, you shoudl have never gone inside it in the first place.. seal broken warranty void!!
i never went inside the pc in the first place -_-
the jumpers in my HD are for limiting the speed to 1.5gb/s or tu have full 3,0gb/s speed, neither works.
Tricky wrote:
I'm trying to figure out what might have caused that, and what it in turn did to the computer. It's remotely possible something shorted it when it was gathering temperatures, fan-speeds, voltages, etc...
same thing happened with my brother last year with a program that gathers temperatures and info about the pc, windows didnt boot, it was a different HD tho but my brother fix it dont remember how bah.
Chantelle wrote:
Obviously check your media is in good nick
i downloaded seatools (a program that boots on its own from the CD) from the seagate website and ran the DST test both the short and the long test and both passed.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2537 ... 200tm3.jpg
seagate wrote:When you launch the "SHORT Test" most drives will run Drive Self
Test. Drive Self Test (DST) is a thorough diagnostic routine
that is built in to the hard drive's firmware. DST
is completely data safe.
Consider running the "LONG Test" which reads each sector
on the drive if you need to run a more comprehensive test.
The "LONG Test" test will take a long time to complete.
Because the "LONG Test" reads every sector on the drive,
the amount of time required will depend on the speed and
capacity of the disc drive.
im gonna start looking for someone that has a pc with a sata capable motherboard to check the data inside is ok.
last minute

: i connected another HD, that works perfectly in another pc, to my pc and it doesnt boot from that HD, the bios recognices it but it doesnt boot, even when the other HD is not connected, even when both HDs are connected it doesnt boot bah bah. Returned the HD to the other pc and it still works -_-, maybe the motherboard doesnt want to boot from a HD? -_-
PostPosted:Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:44 pm
by Hailstorm
anywho.........................................
PostPosted:Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:58 am
by Chantelle
last minute Razz : i connected another HD, that works perfectly in another pc, to my pc and it doesnt boot from that HD, the bios recognices it but it doesnt boot, even when the other HD is not connected, even when both HDs are connected it doesnt boot bah bah. Returned the HD to the other pc and it still works -_-, maybe the motherboard doesnt want to boot from a HD? -_-
sorry only just read that, But you are going to have to be more clear as i cannot understand what any of that meant it was all mish mash.
PostPosted:Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:25 am
by Melissa
does it recognise your hard drive in the other PC??
does the other hard drive appear in the bios
make sure you reseat literally everything! graphics cars and ram sticks
try another sata channell
also doe syour board support IDE ?? must do for your cd drive stick an iDE in there..
also does your bios have a raid support?????
PostPosted:Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:44 am
by Chantelle
oo interesting.. look for a raid utility in the bios
PostPosted:Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:05 pm
by Melissa
was that another tip off there!!!
ill have your new job if you aint careful let alone your old one!!
PostPosted:Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:06 pm
by Sparky
Hmmm the more i read into this i think i maybe able to narrow the problem down.
You optic device is working as it is reading CD.
You have tried both original and independent HDD on SATA channels and they are not responding via BIOS as it knows its there but is refusing to do anything. Like Chan said it cannot be a CPU/PSU/Motherboard issue as if it was it would not detect anything. I have 2 theories:
1. SATA channels are damaged to your hard drive - Like Mel said check them with another channel and, if you have to, i suggest buying new SATA cable/channels.
2. The problem seems to be connected with the program you installed "cpu-z". Now doing some research into this software and talking to other people on techsupport forums it is believed that this program is supposed to (Like you mentioned) look at your PC specs. Also it allows the user to change certain peramitters to get a better latency rates. Primarily this is for scanning purposes but this software has the ability to like i mentioned change peramitters. As i have been told this program does relate to and works on your BIOS settings. Somehow i think that your BIOS has been manipulated due to parts of the software not being compatible. If it is the BIOS which has become the problem then you will need to find a way to reset it to its original support software (Firmware release). If you know the BIOS manufacturer you may find an answer to reseting it there in the forums. However, i believe by taking your PC back they maybe able to solve this problem altogether.
Don't know if this helps.
PostPosted:Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:59 pm
by Chantelle
I reckon taking it back since its within 12 months he shoudl do that first off..
I didnt know the program would do that to the BIOS!!!
Reset your BIOS CMOS
PostPosted:Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:01 pm
by Sparky
It does if it is not supported in someway or if you pressed the wrong command. To look at your spec next time there is an in-built program in the XP system to help you gain the information you need.
PostPosted:Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:47 pm
by Chantelle
a good one for detailed stuff is
sisandra
thats pretty safe and does bench test .. doesnt change stuff makes tweak recommendations etc
PostPosted:Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:57 am
by Hailstorm
mmmm i already did the cmos thing, but anyway my brother came back and fixed the pc, dont know how, but he said the HD was perfect, he had to format the windows partition tho, and everything is back to normal except for those damn blue artifacts everywhere in the screen from time to time.
perhaps the video card's memory has something to do with it, maybe the cpu-z tried to gather some information about the video ram and crashed my pc?
PostPosted:Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:37 am
by Chantelle
I never thought the HDD was damaged anyway
he probably Fdisked it, some systems require a boot of some method to get going
I was just reinstallling a HP server and you couldnt just stick the XP disk in you had top setup from another method.. right pain it was
your going to have to screenie the blue artifact as I do not understand
PostPosted:Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:55 pm
by Hailstorm
in videos or in some websites i see blue squares in some parts of the screen, they come and go.
but in games it's just a nightmare to play because there are weird squares all over the screen all the time, some models even become stretched out like the tree branch in the pic, theres always something stretching out in the screen. i was guessing the video memory has something to do with it. Maybe if i underclock the memory i could make the artifacts dissapear?
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6333 ... ot5cw6.jpg
PostPosted:Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:17 pm
by Tricky
That's definitely a VGU issue. It's possible your card is just damaged, as that's pretty horrendous. You can try down clocking, but if you're at factory defaults, you shouldn't have to, as most come down clocked as it is. If you're still within the warranty, I'd just ship it to ATi/nVidia and have it replaced.
PostPosted:Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:19 pm
by Chantelle
Yeah I agree with Tricky, I have seen this a few times and the only sitations were
1) as tricky said the card had been damaged overheated or faulty
2) There was a conflict , basically the graphics card and another device ( sound card in my case) just did not get along..
One thig you MIGHT wanna try.. in your advanced settinsg in your display properties drop the hardware acceleration a notch or too.. just see if it makes any difference.
PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:25 pm
by Hailstorm
i cant ship it to ati because its like a 2 year old video card and because i live in south america and im afraid it could get lost in the mail =p
One thig you MIGHT wanna try.. in your advanced settinsg in your display properties drop the hardware acceleration a notch or too.. just see if it makes any difference.
im gonna try that now, thx =p
EDIT: tried that and it didnt work at all. i downloaded atitool to underclock but everytime i double click atitool to use it, windows crashes -_-
PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:59 am
by Chantelle
Sorry been away
the computer is only 1 year old it doenst matter if the card was released 2 years ago, it you bought it 1 year ago it shoudl still be covered under warranty
PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:06 am
by Melissa
I would say try a different card but I am confused.. is this the new computer then or are we on a different one?
There could be a massive difference why becasue you could be either agp or pci-e
PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:45 pm
by Hailstorm
its agp :p ati radeon x800 xt all in wonder 256mb =p
PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:50 pm
by Chantelle
okay 12 month guarantee.
take it back to shop
PostPosted:Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:18 am
by Hailstorm
it'll cost me $30 to ship it to ati -_-
PostPosted:Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:05 am
by Tricky
Far better than getting a temporary fix, having it go out of warranty, completely crap out, then have to buy a new card.
PostPosted:Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:32 pm
by Hailstorm
oh well, i'll probably gonna have to discuss it with my brother, thx for the advices everyone

PostPosted:Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:41 pm
by Melissa
THing is, its not a gaming card anyway.. so if your looking for gaming performace your not gonna get it out of that..
for the sake of 25 dollars why dont u and your bro club together and get something substantial